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Mountain ranges / Carnic Alps / Monte Coglians (Hohe Warte) / Untere Valentinalm - Monte Coglians (Hohe Warte) (via Wolayer See)

Untere Valentinalm - Monte Coglians (Hohe Warte) (via Wolayer See)

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Starting point: Untere Valentinalm (1220 m)
Lat/Lon: 46,6225°N 12,9288°E
Name of path: via Wolayer See
Time of walking: 5 h 30 min
Difficulty: difficult marked way
Altitude difference: 1560 m
Altitude difference po putu: 1950 m
Map: Tabacco 9
Recommended equipment (summer): helmet, self belay set
Recommended equipment (winter): helmet, self belay set, ice axe, crampons
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Number of pictures: 37
Number of comments: 10
Access to the starting point:
From Trbiz/Tarvisio, take the motorway to Udine/Vidmo. Leave the motorway at Carnico and first follow signs for Tolmezzo, then signs for Austria and the Pso di Croce Carnico Pass / Plockenpass. At the pass, descend to the Austrian side past the Plocken Haus hut. Soon the road branches off to the left towards the Untere Valentinalm hut, where there is also a small parking lot.
Path description:
At the hut, turn onto the mountain road after the Ob. The road is quite sloping and is closed to public traffic. Soon we leave the road and turn right onto a track which later crosses the road several times and leads us in less than an hour to the Obere Valentinalm hut from which there is a nice view of Rauchkofel (2460m) and the north face of the Kellerspitzen (2769m).
From the hut, follow the well-marked path past the mountain pasture where cattle graze in summer. At the end of mountain pasture the path turns slightly to the left, where you start to climb up the valley below the mighty walls of the Coglians. The path through the valley, which sometimes runs on grassy slopes and sometimes on slopes strewn with rocks and boulders, leads in just over an hour to a junction at the saddle Valentin Torl (2238m). To the right is the path to Rauchkofel, and to the left is a very difficult climbing route to Monte Coglians. Rauchkofel is a very difficult climbing route to the left. We take the middle route, which starts descending from the saddle and leads us in about half an hour to the lake Wolayer See from where there is a very nice view of Monte Coglians and Monte Capolago. The Wolayerseehutte hut is also by the lake.
At the lake, turn left towards the Wolayer pass pass, which is only a few minutes' walk away. From the pass, where there is a hut Rufugio Lambertenghi Romanin on the Italian side, descend a little and you will soon reach a crossroads where you turn left after the Rifugio Marinelli (Sentiero Spinotti trail) signs, the right path leads into the valley towards the Tolazzi hut. From the crossroads, first cross the scree below the western walls of Coglianso for a short distance, then the path becomes much more difficult. Using the fixed safety gear and a ladder, climb the almost vertical narrow gully. The path then climbs up quite steep rock slopes, where we are occasionally helped by rope ladders. The path briefly becomes a little flatter and turns slightly to the left before climbing steeply up the rocky slopes again until reaching the grassy slopes on the south side of Coglians. The path becomes easier and soon joins the path from the Marinelli hut across meadows and scree. Here you start to climb up a slightly slippery scree slope, which becomes quite steep in the upper part. At the last part, the path turns left and there is a steep climb with some easy scrambling towards a very scenic summit.
zemljovid puta - Monte Coglians (Hohe Warte)
On the way: Obere Valentinalm (1540m), Valentin Torl (2238m), The lake Wolayer See (1951m), Wolayer pass (1974m), Rufugio Lambertenghi Romanin (1955m)
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Pictures:
Untere Valentinalm - Monte Coglians (Hohe Warte)1
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Discussion about the trail Untere Valentinalm - Monte Coglians (Hohe Warte) (via Wolayer See)
VanSims8. 07. 2012
Spinottijeva pot je lepa in dokaj lahka(a izpostavljena) plezačina - pot na sam vrh pa naporno grizenje kolen po melišču! Gor tudi palice ne pomagajo kaj dosti, dol pa zelo.
dogna30. 03. 2013
Van Sims, letos nameravam po tej poti na vrh. Ali za Spinottijevo pot priporočaš sam. komlet? Zanima me tudi glede samega melišča, ga lahko primerjaš z kakšnim v naših gorah? Meni je bilo do sedaj najbolj zoprno melišče pred vzstopom v plezalno na Košutnikov turn iz avstrijske strani. Hvala za odgovor in lepe praznike ti želim.
ljubitelj gora30. 03. 2013
Lani sem bil z nekom v teh koncih. V koči sem slikal en zemljevid.
http://shrani.si/f/1m/iW/2P9jTOnh/dsc02989.jpg
IgorZlodej30. 03. 2013
Ne vem zakaj bi bilo problematično melišče na vrh Cogliansa, ko pa je gor speljana lepa mulatjera, le v vršnem delu je treba tu in tam malo poprijeti za skalo. Kar se tiče poti "sentiero spinotti" menim, da se samovarovalnega kompleta ne potrebuje, ker je jeklenic malo, čez najtežje mesto pa je nameščeno lesno stopnišče.
ljubitelj gora30. 03. 2013
Izhodišče bi jaz izbral Collina, dva pa sva šla izhodišče Untere Valentinalm, za nazaj se je kar vleklo, pa še okoli 400 višincev se naredi. Ferrata se nahaja na S strani, po ferrati gor, povratek pa gre po južni strani in naokoli. Več slik:
https://plus.google.com/photos/114400986607884783562/albums/5755115273882368977?banner=pwa
VanSims30. 03. 2013
@dogn
mirank30. 03. 2013
Za moje pojme je za vzpon po poti Spinotti edino priporočljivo izhodišče pri koči Tolazzi, razen če se ne vračaš po isti poti, kar pa se mi zdi popolnoma brez veze in kar dolga tura. Pot Spinotti se združi z potjo mimo koče Marinelli (kjer se vračaš na izhodišče) nekje na višini ki jo vidiš na sl.30. Malo više se začnejo melišča in nestabilni tereni in tako je dobro uro do vrha. Kot omenja Igor pot ni preveč zahtevna in če se držiš steze se večine zoprnih meliščnih odsekov izogneš (glej sl.31,32 34). Za povratek priporočam pot mimo koče Marinelli in planine Moraret, kjer se vedno vidi kaj posebnega.
VanSims30. 03. 2013
@dogna: jekelnic je nekaj v spodnjem delu za lestvijo potem pa več ali manj prosta plezačina. Jaz nisem imel kompleta. Kar se tiče melišča je kar zoprno morda jaz nisem lepo ujel poti. Za dol grede se splača imeti pa palice - z njimi je šlo juhuhu hitro mežikanje

Morda tudi svetujem za izhodišče kočo Tolazzi, namesto Untere Valentinalma kot je opisano tu. Po moje je krajša krožna pot(Igor?). Poleg tega se izogneš trapanju po cesti iz Plockenpassa do izhodišča.

Tukaj je moj opis:
http://www.hribi.net/trenutnerazmere.asp?slo=1&gorovjeid=27&id=584

@Igor: Ali si že šel po Koban-Prunnerjevi poti? Za letos me mika(Weg26 je pretežka zame). V zgornjem delu(skupna z Weg26) me ne skrbi toliko ker je zavarovana in od stika B in manj težavnosti. Pač pa je na tej poti v spodnjem delu v glavnem prosta plezačina. Kako težka je?

@LG: iz tvojega opisa in slik na gornjem linku sklepam da si šel po Spinottiju dol. Se mi zdi to malo scarry izkušnja glede na izpostavljenost. Ali vendar ni tako hudo? Ker bi jaz tudi...
dogna30. 03. 2013
Fantje, najlepša hvala za odgovore. Moja predvidena pot je od Untere Valentinalm na Rauchkofel in potem prespati pri Wolayersee( po slikah sodeč je tam zelo lepo), drugi dan pa po opisani poti na vrh in mimo koče Marinelli nazaj na Plockenpass.Vidim, da ste danes kar vsi doma. Vreme je res obupno, no je pa primerno za načrtovanje poletnih tur.Še enkrat hvala za vsa pojasnila.
IgorZlodej30. 03. 2013
Za Coglians je seveda idealno izhodišče koča Tolazzi, ker se lepo krožno vrneš nazaj. Se pravi v zgodnjem popoldnevu do koče Lamberentghi Romanin (Piero bo vsakega vesel) ali Ernest Pichl hutte ob jezeru na avstrijski strani. Potreben je kratek sestop in po Spinottiju na vrh in sestop preko koče Marinelli in planine Moraretto nazaj do Tolazzija. Valentinova dolina je povsem na drugi strani, sicer primerna za vzpon na Ruchkofel, še vedno možno prenočevanje v eni od koč in naslednji dan povratek ali pa vzpon na Capolagomežikanje.
@VanSims na poti, ki jo omenjaš nisem bil, vedno na 26. lovski bataljon. Tudi obakrat opisal na hribi.net.
     
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