Planina Podvežak - Lučki Dedec (via Kocbekov dom)
Starting point: Planina Podvežak (1564 m)
Lat/Lon: | 46,3319°N 14,6726°E |
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Name of path: via Kocbekov dom
Time of walking: 3 h 15 min
Difficulty: partly demanding unmarked way
Altitude difference: 459 m
Altitude difference po putu: 635 m
Map: Kamniške in Savinjske Alpe 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer):
Recommended equipment (winter): ice axe, crampons
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Access to the starting point:
First drive to Luče, then continue into the Podvolovjek valley (direction Kamnik and Kranjski Rak). At the road marker between 11 and 11. 5 km, you will come to a small crossroads where the road to the right branches off towards Farmer Planinšek and the mountains Podveža, Ravne and Vodole (the branch is marked). Take this initially still asphalted road and follow it at the crossroads in the route mountain pasture Podveža. After a relatively long and in the upper part also worse macadam road you will reach the parking lot under mountain pasture Podveža (at the starting point there is a ramp and a number of mountain signs).
From Kamnik, drive towards the Črnivec Pass, but only as far as the crossroads, where the road to Kranjski Rak turns sharp left (the turn-off is marked and is located only 500 m before the pass). At the crossroads at Kranjski Rak, continue straight ahead on the main road, which starts descending into the Podvolovjek valley. In the valley, just 100 m after the Gams bar, you will reach a crossroads where the road to the left branches off towards the farmer Planinšek and the Podveža, Ravne and Vodole mountains (the branch is marked). Follow the description above.
Path description:
From the parking lot, take the footpath (or road) in the route mountain pasture Podveža. Both the road and the footpath, which crosses a forest road during the ascent, lead us in 15 minutes of moderate ascent to the shepherd's hut at mountain pasture Podveža, from which we have a beautiful view towards Rogatec and Lepenatka.
From mountain pasture continue along the marked, but at first less visible path, which soon goes into the forest. The path through the forest climbs a little steeper and then enters a small uncultivated valley, above which it completely flattens out. It is followed by a few minutes of crossing the slopes below the side ridge of the board, and then the path leads to a less visible crossroads, where an unmarked path branches off to the left, leading towards Deska and the Watercourse Lake. Continue straight on the marked path, which descends into a pleasant grassy plain, then turns slightly to the right and climbs through the dwarf pines zone. At the top of the climb, the path with the mountain pasture Vodole joins from the right, and we continue left, crossing a pasture fence and after a few further steps we reach the Inkret's Well, which is located just a few metres off the path.
There is only a slight climb, and then the path lies down again and leads us under the relatively steep and avalanche-prone slopes of Tolstego vrh (Tolstego Peak). A little further on, a pleasant path leads us to a marked crossroads, where we continue slightly left in the direction of Korošica (slightly right, the chapel on Molička peč (mountain)). The path continues for some time crossing the slopes below Tolstim vrh, and then passes onto the plateau-like world of the Dleskovška plateau, which is interspersed with numerous potholes and caves. The path, which continues with a few short ascents and descents, then quickly leads us to a crossroads, where the path from Robanov Kot and mountain pasture Ravne joins us from the right.
Continue in the direction of Korošica along the path which ascends crosswise to the saddle between the lesser-known Koroška vrh on the left and Mala Ojstrica on the right. Continue straight down (Prag on the left, Ojstrica over Mala Ojstrica on the right) on the marked trail which starts descending towards Koroška. After a few minutes of descending, you will reach the vast grassy slopes of Korošica, which you will then walk along in a few minutes to the mountain lodge. From Kocbek's home, continue left in the direction of Podvolovjek and Kamniška Bistrica along the path, which begins to climb gently and then moderately towards the Prag Pass. After about 15 minutes of walking, we reach the preval, and we follow the marked trail for another 10 m to the place where the signs for Lučki Dedec direct us to the right on the unmarked trail.
At the place where you see the signs for Lučki Dedec, leave the marked path and continue your ascent along the initially visible path. The path continues along a small valley, then turns right and climbs steeply. Further on, the path, along which there are numerous cairns, starts to disappear, but in good weather this does not cause any orientation problems. There is a climb over a small scree field, and then the path changes to grassy slopes surrounded by dwarf pines. Here, one of the three peaks of the Lučki Dedec will be visible on the right, and we continue straight on along the path which leads us to the main ridge. On the ridge, we continue slightly to the left and the path quickly leads us past the second peak to a large meadow, which we climb in a few steps to the precipitous peak.
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Discussion about the trail Planina Podvežak - Lučki Dedec (via Kocbekov dom)
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Guest2. 10. 2006 |
Pravi dedec: na prvi pogled zaj... in zahteven, s pravim pristopom pa prav pohleven in prijazen.
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Guest16. 09. 2007 |
15. 9. 2007 sva bila z možem že drugič v tem mesecu na Korošici, saj je bila 1. 9. otvoritev prenovljenega doma in ni bilo priložnosti za uživanje v lepoti naših gora. Takrat sva se povzpela na Ojstrico in kar hitro odšla, saj ni bilo prostora in nekateri so ga že malo imeli pod kapo. Tako sva imela željo, da se še vrnema. In tako sva se znova odpravila iz planine Podvežak, na Moličko peč, do Kocbekovega doma in nato na Dedeca po opisani poti, bilo je čudovita sama na planoti, uživanje v tišini, na Ojstrici prava gneča. Vrnitev mimi Vodotočnika, nazaj po nemarkirani poti in bilo je prekrasno. Pa SREČNO!
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Guest22. 11. 2007 |
Mislimo, da ga imajo na Korošici kar prevečkrat pod kapo!!! Sp. Savinjčani
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damjan golič10. 07. 2010 |
Danes sva se z mojo najdražjo povspela iz planine Podvelžak mimo Kocbekovega doma na Lučkega dedca. Do doma je pot čudovito označena in markirana. Avto sva pustila malce nižje na parkirišču je bilo polno avtomobilov,celo z avtobusom se da do izhodišča. Zahvalil bi se trem planincem,ki so nama z koristnimi informacijami pomagali da sva brez težav po brezpotju osvojila Dedca in se varno vrnila v dolino. DAN JE BIL KRASEN!
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LukaSLO22. 11. 2010 |
Do Kocbekova doma na Korošici je pot zelo dobro markirana. Na Lučki Dedec pa lahko nastanejo težavo, če skreneš z idealne poti, tako da previdnost ne bo odveč.
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muzikant AT8. 08. 2011 |
Živijo. Zanima me če ima Lučki Dedec vpisno knjigo in žig. Hvala za info že v naprej. Pa srečno
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otiv8. 08. 2011 |
Mislim,da ni ne enega niti drugega.Morda imajo žig na Korošici. Lep pozdrav!
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redbull12. 02. 2012 |
zdravo zanima me če se da v teh razmerah na lučk. dedca po tej poti, ali je nevarnost plazov velika in če potrebuješ tudi cepin za lažjo hojo. zdej po 15 februarju. hvala že vnaprej lp dejan
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otiv12. 02. 2012 |
Dejan! Zima se ne konča v gorah 15 februarja, še dolgo v pomlad so prave zimske razmere.Te dni vsekakor delajo probleme zameti in teh je vedno veliko in preko priti je prava muka če si pešak.Cepin je del zimske opreme in je obvezni del opreme gornika.Mene je cepin nekoč rešil iz zagate,da sem hlodovino razmaknil z njim,da sem se lahko vrnil v dolino,tako da ni nikoli odveč. Pot na Lučkega dedca ni problematična,če so razmere normalne. Srečno!
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CarpeDiem2475. 03. 2012 |
Bi samo vprašal, koliko časa je potrebno računati od Kocbekovega doma, nekega srednjega tempa, da se pride do Lučkega dedca? Ali bi "direkten" vzpon nanj, se pravi nekoliko bolj po levi, ne naravnost v steno zahteval več kot npr. 2.stopnjo plezanja, če je kdo to že poizkušal, sem pač firbčen?
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otiv5. 03. 2012 |
V letnem času cca 40min to sicer preko sedelca,kjer je markirana steza.Za tvojo varianto pa ne vem,ker nisem tak gams kot si ti.
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Gdu bo meni reku svinja18. 10. 2012 |
Danes s prijateljem obiskala tale res zanimiv vrh. Naredila sva krožno pot z izhodiščno točko Podvežak, najprej direktno na vrh, potem še pa na požirek grenkega zadovoljstva v Kocbekov dom, ki je bil po naključju danes še odprt. Pri domu sva srečala edine planince tisti dan, kjer smo se še pošteno nasmejali. Ko naju je vprašala, kje sva bila in sva povedala da na dedcu je direkt pribila "pubeca, je pa na babnici ziher bolj zabavno!" [js>
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črnozanohtam16. 11. 2012 |
živjo. zanima me, kakšna je cesta do podvežaka, sploh ta makadamski del? je možno avto pustiti kje ob poti, če bi bilo prehudo načeto? hvala.
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katja8710. 06. 2013 |
Včeraj, 9.6.2013, smo se po tej poti odpravili na vrh Lučkega Dedca. Pot je prehodna, čeprav je še veliko snega. Narejena je utrjena gaz, tako da zimska oprema ni potrebna. Naredili smo turo: Planina Podvežak - Planina Korošica - Lučki Dedec - Kocbekov dom na Korošici - Mala Ojstrica - Planina Podvežak. Pot na Lučkega Dedca je sicer nemarkirana, vendar zaradi pogostih možicev poti ni mogoče zgrešiti. Le vmes je kakšen možic še pod snegom, kar pa ne predstavlja velike ovire. Kocbekov dom je odprt, vendar ga prenavljajo, zato vstopiti nismo mogli. Slike iz pohoda si lahko ogledate na spletni strani Planinskega društva Matica Murska Sobota: http://www.mojalbum.com/pdmaticams/20130609-lucki-dedec-in-mala-ojstrica/lucki-dedec/20846480
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Kokta15. 07. 2013 |
Planina Podvežak - Planina Korošica - Lučki Dedec - Kocbekov dom na Korošici - Mala Ojstrica - Molička planina - Planina Podvežak. Vreme super
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seinfeld13. 10. 2013 |
Danes na Lučkega dedca preko sedelca med Desko in Tolstim vrhom in mimo Vodotočnega jezera. Pot na dedca je gosto posejana z možici in je orientacija enostavna. Ko skrenemo na pragu z markirane poti je le še pol ure do vrha. Za celotno pot s planine Podvežak sva potrebovala dve uri in deset minut.
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Goru26. 05. 2016 |
Zivjo, zanima me kako je s snegom na korosici in dedcu?
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marko hribinet4. 04. 2017 |
Zivijo. V soboto sem mislil iti sem gor. Mi lahko prosim kdo pove, kaksne so kaj razmere. Koliko je snega, je gaz? Je glede na to, da gre za neoznaceno pot, le-ta tezko sledljiva? Pa se, ce so potrebne dereze in cepin ali bodo dovolj ze male dereze? Hvala!
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jvali3. 08. 2018 |
v ponedeljek, 30.7. 2018 iz Podvežaka mimo jezera Vodotočnik na Lučkega Dedca. Lepa pot, predvsem nemarkiran del na vrh je svojstven, zanimiv, malo telovadbe po dobri skali, bila prvič na gori. Vrh zelo prostran, razgleden, zelen, a tudi prepaden. Nazaj do Planine po zgornji stezi, ne pa Korošico, ker je pogled na ostanke doma dovolj žalosten in sem mu zrla v oči prejšnjikrat, ko sem se vračala z Ojstrice. Na poti gor in dol nikjer žive duše. Na Planini prijeten klepet z oskrbnikom in odlična kava!
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jvali3. 08. 2018 |
Malo prehitro sem oddala komentar, pa je odletel brez slikic. Upam, da tokrat uspe.
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garmont3. 08. 2018 |
Tukaj ne moreš dodajati slik. Lahko samo komentiraš zgoraj opisan izlet. Slike lahko dodajaš v temi “Trenutne razmere”.
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jvali3. 08. 2018 |
garmont: hvala . Drži, da se vsak dan kaj novega naučimo. Sem odprla novo temo in tja dala opis in naložila slikice. Pozdrav, Valerija
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skiro1231. 08. 2019 |
Nekaj lažji je po moje pristop s S strani, če se gre mimo Kocbekovega doma. Sledi se poti, ki gre proti Z oz. Srebrnemu sedlu in Planjavi (najprej ni najbolje vidna, ker je veliko skal, kasneje pa je lepo uhojena). Po cca 1/4 ure hoje bo levo zavila lepo vidna pod na sedlo pod Lučkim dedcom. S sedla se nato po travniku vzpnete do vrha - tu je potka manj vidna a vsaj ni orientacijsko zahtevna, saj je treba samo slediti strmini in vedeti, da je vrh na levem robu. Pot je označena tudi na open cycle map.
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J.P.2. 09. 2022 17:21:00 |
Po prevalu se usmerimo na prvo vidno stezico v desno.Dodatnih oznak ni vec.Na vrh s cudovitimi razgledi nas potem popeljejo mozici in kancek orientacije.Kocbek zal se vedno ni deležen prenove/obnove. Lp
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Enka13. 08. 2024 20:00:13 |
Od table na sliki 38 je ostal le še kol, pri katerem je potrebno slediti potki v levo, če prihajamo od Vodotočnega jezera, oziroma v desno po opisanem pristopu. Ko potka izgine, je pot odlično omožičena, tako da ni mogoče zgrešiti.
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