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Mountain ranges / Kamnik Savinja Alps / Jezerska Kočna / Suhadolnik - Jezerska Kočna (via Grdi graben and Dolci)

Suhadolnik - Jezerska Kočna (via Grdi graben and Dolci)

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Starting point: Suhadolnik (901 m)
Lat/Lon: 46,3352°N 14,5102°E
Name of path: via Grdi graben and Dolci
Time of walking: 5 h 15 min
Difficulty: very difficult marked way
Altitude difference: 1639 m
Altitude difference po putu: 1700 m
Map: Kamniške in Savinjkse Alpe 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer): helmet, self belay set
Recommended equipment (winter): helmet, self belay set, ice axe, crampons
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Number of pictures: 74
Number of comments: 19
Access to the starting point:
From the motorway Ljubljana - Jesenice take the exit Kranj - East and follow the road towards Jezersko, but only as far as the village of Kokra. In this village, just a few metres before the road crosses the bridge over the Kokra River, you will see a road leading towards Suhadolnik. The road turnoff is located when we are on the right side of the river (left bank) and the road marker is approximately 7 km. Follow this road to the parking area, which is about 300 m in front of the Suhadolnik farm.
Path description:
At the beginning of the parking lot, you will see mountain direction signs directing you to the road, which will take you to a small crossroads near the Suhadolnik farm in less than 5 minutes. Here we continue along the right-hand road, and we follow it for about 5 minutes, or until the place where the signs lead us to the ascending cart track. We then climb cart track for a short distance, and then the signs direct us to the right onto a footpath which climbs moderately through the forest. Higher up, we return to cart track, which leads us a few metres further to a forest road, which we then follow to its end (it takes about half an hour to get here).
At the end of the road, the marked path splits into two parts. Continue along the left-hand path (to the right, the slightly easier "Old Path"), which climbs further along the folded cart track. A little further on, the markings direct us slightly to the right onto torrential layers of sand, and the path continues through the forest on the other side, where it starts to climb steeply. Higher up, we reach a small cave, and the path beyond it becomes technically difficult. With the help of a rope ladder, we climb a step higher, and the path then continues on a steep slope, where occasionally a wedge helps us. Higher up, the path turns to the right, climbs steep and, especially in the wet, slippery slopes and then leads to an excellently protected crossing. With the help of wooden steps or ladders and the aid of a rope ladder, we climb up the steep slope, which would be very dangerous without the aforementioned fixed safety gear. Higher up, we are helped by a few more pegs, and the route then lays down and crosses a short exposed slope, where we are helped by an emergency fence. Just a little further on, we come to the next ladder, which does not have a belay, but the crossing is not particularly difficult. There is a short descent into a small gully, which is crossed after this. On the other side of the gully we climb steeply (a few staples help us), and then the path slowly lays down and in a few 10 steps of further walking leads us to a place where it joins the slightly easier "Old Path".
There is a short cross-climb and the path leads us to a larger plain where the "old hut" once stod. Cross the tall grasses to the other side of the plain and arrive at a marked crossroads. At the crossroads, turn left to follow the signs Dolci and Kokrška Kočna. The path then begins to climb steeply on a less well-trodden track over a grassy slope. Soon turn slightly left and cross steep exposed slopes. The path then begins to descend gently and crosses Grdi graben. Again we start climbing up the steep slope and then the path leads us to the grassy slopes (Srednji Dolci). On the right we join the path from Kokrsko sedlo, a few metres later we are again at the crossroads. Turn right and the path to the left leads to the bivouac below Kočna and Kokrska Kočna. We climb over a grassy slope, which then leads us to a scree slope, which we climb for some time. At the end, the path turns slightly to the left along the scree and leads us into the rocks. There is a short climb slightly to the right to Dolška škrbina (2317m - the lowest point between Kočna and Grintovec). There is also a crossroads on the notch, where we turn left towards Kočna (right Grintovec. The path then leads us along the north side of the ridge and soon leads us to the crossroads again. This time we turn left (straight down Češka koča, right Grintovec) and continue our ascent along the trail, which quickly leads us to one of the most interesting passages in the Slovenian mountains. The trail leads us to a belly-shaped passage through which we have to crawl. The path goes on to a short scree slope, after which we step onto a steeper path, where we are helped by a few wedges and rocks. This increasingly scenic route is then followed to a little spacious summit.
zemljovid puta - Jezerska Kočna
On the way: Dolška škrbina (2317m)
We can extend the trip to the following destinations: Kokrska Kočna
We recommend: trips from the same starting point, similar trips, panorama, Inscription book
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Discussion about the trail Suhadolnik - Jezerska Kočna (via Grdi graben and Dolci)
nata244. 08. 2009
Če grem sama na Jezersko Kočno ali je možno z nahrbtnikom preiti trebušast prehod? Lp, Nataša
anemona4. 08. 2009
Z nahrbtnikom je možno preiti trebušast prehod tako, da nahrbtnik potiskaš pred sabo ali pa vlečeš za sabo. Ni tak problem. Večji se mi zdi v tem, da nameravaš sama po zahtevni poti, kjer je resnično treba paziti na vsak korak. Morda čez Hudi graben še celo bolj (zelo ozka stezica, mastne travne ruše, krhko kamenje med zemljo, prepadno, jeklenice potekajo delno v travi) kot v skali, ki pa je tudi krušljiva in polna grušča. Z možem sva opravila pot Suhadolnik-Kokrsko sedlo-Grintovec Jezerska Kočna-čez Dolce-Hudi graben-Suhadolnik, v soboto 1. avgusta. Srečno in lp, Anemona
lynx4. 08. 2009
dobra sta, vetrnica! Koliko časa vama je pa vzelo?
anemona4. 08. 2009
Sva prespala. Petek zvečer Kokrsko, zjutraj ob 6.30 sva startala proti Grintovcu in se čez Kočno, Dolce in Hudi graben vrnila do avta pri Suhadolniku približno ob 15.30 (všteti postanki na vrhovih in malica na Dolcih). Sem srednje hitre/počasne sorte, po pesku pa previdno počasna. V soboto cca 1000 m vzpona in cca 1800 m spusta (prišteti tudi vmesni spusti) je za moja kolena dovolj. Pa še: pot je vzorno markirana. Kjer so varovala, so vsa ok (le pri prvi gladki skali pri spustu z Grintovca sva ob jeklenici silno pogrešala en dodaten klin). Lp!
fpetel14. 08. 2009
Jaz sem šel gor od Suhadolnika čez Grdi graben in čez Dolce. Ker se je spuščala megla in me je mučila orientacija na melišču - druga slika v sedmi vrsti - pod Kokrsko Kočno (gor na dobrih 2200), sem obrnil in se vrnil čez Ovnov čer na Kališče. A gre nadaljevanje po skalovju ali po melišču?(merkacije na tem delu zelo redke, poti pa praktično ni. Ostali del orientacijsko nezahteven) Pot mislim ponoviti (po možnosti še ta mesec)
anemona4. 08. 2009
Ko prideš do razcepa na 2. sliki 7. vrsta, si na cca 1900m. Tik pod zgornjim robom slike, na sredini slike, se vidi ovalni Bivak v Kočni (ga nisi mogel videti zaradi megle). Levi odcep gre v melišče proti bivaku in Kokrski Kočni. Desni odcep (po kompasu direktno na sever) pa po položni skalnati poti (Srednji Dolci) v smeri Jezerske Kočne. Ta desna dobro markirana pot pripelje do vstopa na melišče, po katerem gre navzgor do vstopa v plezalni del. Le-ta je tudi zelo dobro markiran (po melišču pa je seveda težko kaj markirati). Midva sva šla v obratni smeri. Pametno, da si se obrnil nazaj oz. proti Kokrskemu sedlu. Lp!
grahlck10. 08. 2009
Ali so na tej poti kakšna snežišča ki so lahko nevarna? Je sploh kaj snega?
nata2410. 08. 2009
Sem bila v soboto in snega ni po poti nikjer več. Lp, Nataša
grahlck10. 08. 2009
Hvala Nataša
pbrgle122. 08. 2010
Včeraj sma z očetom šla po tej poti navzdol. ne bi je priporočal za spust saj je še po tako zahtevnem spustu nato dobro uro vzpona do cojzove koče.
Pot je dokaj zahtevna in nevarna zaradi ozke in neshojene steze, spolzke trave in mokre zemlje. marsikje na poti sem pogrešal kline in zajle.
Mirko018. 10. 2010
Čez vikend je napovedano solidno vreme. Kakšne so nevarnosti po tej poti v tem delu leta?
Hvala in lep dan
Mirko018. 10. 2010
Kdorkoli?
Maja_C8. 10. 2010
Po tej poti sem šla lani konec septembra. Kot je že pbrgle 1 napisal, je pot nevarna zaradi spolzkih trav in blata (zgornje fotke v 11. in 12. vrsti). Tudi lani je bilo precej razmočeno v tem delu, tako da sem bila bolj previdna, pa ni bilo nobenih težav. Je pa drugače prav lepa tura tole, in glede na ime sem pričakovala en res grd graben, pa ni bil!
Mirko018. 10. 2010
Hvala, Maja!
myuser21. 07. 2014
Živjo, če je na poti na Kočno (dokaj pri vrhu) kdo našel črna sončna očala dne 20.7.2014, bi mu bil hvaležen, če bi se javil ter mi jih po možnosti poslal na moj domači naslov.

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mornar15. 08. 2020
V kratkem bi šel na Jezersko koč, čeno po tej poti pa me zanima,če je kdo vkratkem hodivteh koncih.Zanima me sledljivost ter ali je pot težja kot iz Češke koče kjer sem že šel dvakrat.L.P.
jax15. 08. 2020
Mah, kaj naj ti rečem. Kot že ime pove, pot je grda. Kot prvo, prečenje tistih trav proti Grdemu grabnu je ena od bolj psihotičnih zadev, s katerimi se boš na markiranih poteh srečal. Pot je markirana in sledljiva, prav zelo obiskana pa ni. Potem proti Dolcem je boljše, Dolci so izredno lep plac, kot nalašč za počitek, potem pa nadaljuješ proti Dolški škrbini in imaš pred njo še en zelo zahteven prehod po nezavarovanem strmem žlebu. Od tam naprej do vrha ni več težav, čeprav se je treba na enem mestu malo plazit.
Tako - če mene vprašaš, je Kremžarjeva lažja. Je morda bolj strma, ampak po tistem šodru se nekako da, medtem ko je Grdi graben prav hudoben. Pa takega mesta kot je tisti žleb pod Dolško škrbino, se na severni strani ne spomnim. Se pa da. In ja, vzpon na Kokrško Kočno, prečenje na Jezersko in sestop tule je kar spodobna krožna tura. Čeprav bi ti v tem primeru skoraj svetoval, da dodaš še Grintovec. Imaš še 200 višincev več, zato se pa hkrati izogneš sestopu po Grdem grabnu in dodaš še en vrh. Dobitna kombinacija.
mornar15. 08. 2020
jax hvala za odgovor l.p.
cen6. 09. 2021 21:28:14
Čez grdi greben ni ravno pot ampak bolj kozja steza.. najt bi se moral en zagrizen ki bi zadevo malo razširil. velik nasmeh

Ko se vračate navzdol čez trebušast prehod pa še nasvet: ne zadrsaj nahrbtnika po tisti klančini ker se lahko na koncu prevrne na napačno stran in zleti v globino. Kontrolirano ga spustiš vse do dna ali pa ga nekdo od spodaj preprime če ste v večih. Od zgoraj je videt da je že nekaj opreme končalo tam dol.
     
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