V Koncu - Skuta (via Gamsov skret)
Starting point: V Koncu (900 m)
Name of path: via Gamsov skret
Time of walking: 5 h 15 min
Difficulty: very difficult unmarked way, difficult marked way
Altitude difference: 1632 m
Altitude difference po putu: 1750 m
Map: Kamniške in Savinjske Alpe 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer): helmet
Recommended equipment (winter): helmet, ice axe, crampons
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Access to the starting point:
Drive into Kamnik and follow the road towards the Kamnik Bistrica valley. From your home in Kamniška Bistrica, continue driving along the forest road, which takes you higher up to a crossroads where you continue straight ahead (right Jermanca, starting point for Kamniško sedlo). The road then takes you past Žagana peči to the parking lot at the lower station of the cargo cableway to Kokrsko sedlo.
Path description:
From the parking lot at the lower cable car station, continue along the road to the "upper car park". Here you will see two cart track on the left-hand side of the road next to the car park. The left-hand cart track, which is marked with signs on a tree, leads towards Kokrsko sedlo. We take the right cart track (this cart track is also on the left side of the road).
Initially, follow the above-mentioned cart track for a while, from which a few side tracks branch off, and then the track becomes a lane. Continue for some time on a narrow track through the forest. The path here follows the left side of the valley throughout, thus avoiding the steep rock jump in the lower part of the valley.
Once out of the forest, the path crosses a slightly steeper slope to the right and leads to grassy slopes. The ascent then follows a grassy terrain, which leads us to the foot of the Kogel walls.
Here the better-beaten track turns left towards the wall, and we continue slightly right along a narrow track. The path is quite poorly visible at this point and follows the left side of the torrent up the valley. The waterfall of the above-mentioned torrent (usually without water) can serve as a good orientation. The path turns left a little before the waterfall and enters the cliff.
Here the trail becomes very difficult and first we have to climb a few metres up an almost vertical slope. Then you climb up a narrow shelf, which crosses the slope to the right and leads to steep grassy slopes. Although the ledge is protected, the climb is quite difficult. It should also be borne in mind that the fixed safety gear are usually in slightly worse condition than we are used to on marked routes. We continue to climb for some time on fairly steep grassy slopes, then the slope becomes gradually less steep and the path leads us to an unexpected bench from which there is also a very nice view on all sides.
In the following, we climb up the grassy slope all the way to the marked Kokrsko sedlo - Kamniško sedlo trail.
Here we turn left and follow the marked path, which soon leads us in slight downhills and uphills to a crossroads, where we continue right in the direction of Grintovca and Skute (left bivouac 1 minute) along a relatively gently sloping path, which soon leads us to the next crossroads. Continue right in the direction of Skute (straight Mlinarsko sedlo) along the path which leads us across the karst world of the Great Pods to the foot of a moderately steep wall. Here the path becomes upright and with the help of natural steel cables we overcome the shorter wall between Dolgi hrbet and Štruca (high risk of slipping in wet conditions). At the top of the climb, the path from Long Back joins from the left. Continue to the right, where you will then go around the top of Štruca in a slight downhill with the help of some wedges on the left. The path leads us onwards to an undistinguished saddle between Štruca and Skuta, from which we climb to the summit in 15 minutes on the easy summit slope of Skuta.
In Koncu - Bivouac 3:15, Bivouac - Skuta 2:00.
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Discussion about the trail V Koncu - Skuta (via Gamsov skret)
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| enjanez31. 07. 2008 |
Pred dnevi sva s kolegom zgrešila vstop na stezo. Pod meliščem (slika 3) sva se pri lovski preži po sledeh usmerila navzgor. Sledi, ki bi vodile proti levemu delu doline ni bilo, zaradi bujnega rastja in podrtih dreves, nikjer videti. Spominjam se, da je steza dobro shojena, zato mora biti začetek steze drugje, kot je v tem opisu.
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| kopron31. 07. 2008 |
Slika 1 to je začetek poti proti žmavčarjem .Če gledaš Sliko 1 ja takoj levo še en kolovoz to je začetek poti proti gamsovem skretu po nekaj sto metrih se zoža in naprej je steza ki se nadaljuje v ključih. Tudi če gledaš sliko 3 se pride precej višje na stezo ko ta prečka ta graben vendar je treba že mal plezati.
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| kopron31. 07. 2008 |
Morda nisem bil preje dovolj precizen, sl.1 levo od modrega avtomobila je ta preje opisani kolovoz ki se potem nadaljuje kot steza v gamsov skret.
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| enjanez31. 07. 2008 |
Hvala lepa. Zmedlo naju je od lanskega snega podrto drevje. Sva si pa zato ogledale kraje, kamor razen lovcev pridejo le redki. Vseeno je bilo lepo.
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| janez331. 07. 2008 |
Zmede najbolj opis izleta ( in GPS track na teh straneh ), ki najprej povede v Žmavčarje in takoj nato prisili v iskanje veznih prečnih stezic v Koncu. Prav ima kopron. Z zadnjega parkirišča po levem kolovozu proti severu. Ko se ta cepi, po desnem kraku in ta se nadaljuje v stezo čez Gamsov skret.
Zgoraj na Podih, če je želja obiskati le Skuto, tudi ni nobene potrebe iti do bivaka. Markacijam sledimo še kratek čas mimo mesta, ki ga prikazuje sl.16, nato jih zapustimo in zavijemo desno v brezpotje.Da smo na pravi poti, nam ponavadi potrdijo možici. Štruco imamo na svoji desni, pred sabo pa Dolgi hrbet. Hodimo naravnost navzgor, v zadnjem delu nad kotanjo zavijemo levo in kmalu stopimo na markirano pot pod D.hrbtom.
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| Pastirica1. 08. 2008 |
kopron, če ni skrivnost, zanima me čisto zgornji del tistega "...vendar je treba že mal plezati." Predvsem prestop v Trato. Je kaj težjega kot v spodnji polovici?
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| kopron1. 08. 2008 |
Prestop v zgornji del je treba malo preplezati pa tudi zajla je v pomoč. Pa tudi da prideš do zajl moraš iti do konca spodnjega dela trate desno od kogla(do skalne bariere).Levo zgoraj zagledaš zajlo(glej sliko 8) Potem pa po polici,kjer je tudi zajla.
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| Pastirica1. 08. 2008 |
Zdaj pa ne govoriva o isti stvari. V mislih imam sliko 3 in prestop v Trato POD Koglom.
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| kopron1. 08. 2008 |
Da po tej grapi prideš na trato moraš v vsakem primeru priti na stezo ki prečka to grapo, in vodi naprej proti koglu in gamnsovem skretu. Tam je tudi odcep za mali hudi graben. Je že mnogo let ko sem šel po grabnu gor. Tudi čez gamsov skret sem šel nazadnje pred petimi leti.
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| Pastirica1. 08. 2008 |
Zdaj razumem. Se pravi, da do mesta na sl.8 ni plezanja, le spodaj je treba prav začeti. HVALA!
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| kopron2. 08. 2008 |
Nobenega plezanja ni razen tam na sliki 8 in 9 saj se to drži skupaj. Tudi ko greš gori jo skoraj ne rabiš. Rabi se če sestopaš dol, pa tudi orientacijsko je dosti zahtevno pri sestopanju čez gamsov skret. Veliko lažje je sestop čez Žmavčarje.
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| NEIC00826. 07. 2009 |
''Pred dnevi sva s kolegom zgrešila vstop na stezo. Pod meliščem (slika 3) sva se pri lovski preži po sledeh usmerila navzgor. Sledi, ki bi vodile proti levemu delu doline ni bilo, zaradi bujnega rastja in podrtih dreves, nikjer videti. Spominjam se, da je steza dobro shojena, zato mora biti začetek steze drugje, kot je v tem opisu.'' ENAKO SE ZGODILO MENI DANES... ZARADI TEGA DVOJNO PLEZANJE, PRVO, KI SPLOH NI OMENJENO (VSTOP V STENO OB KONCU MELIŠČA) IN POTEM TISTO OPISANO ZGORAJ. POT VSEKAKOR NI PRIMERNA ZA NAZAJ, PA TUDI ORIENTACIJSKO ZAHTEVNA.. MOJ NASVET: ČE NE POZNAŠ POTI IZBIRAJ LE TISTE OZNAČENE.. 
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| techouse6. 10. 2014 |
Lepa turca. Pot je bla ta vikend TOP. 
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| grega_z_brega15. 11. 2015 |
Na poti v gozdu so na enem delu podrta drevesa, ki pa jih je bolje preplezati kot pa izbrati zoprn obvoz v desno, ki nas nato po grapi pripelje nazaj na pot.
Vse ostalo b.p.
Jeklenice so nove.
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| trdi29. 08. 2017 |
Ja opis tu ni najboljši, oziroma bi bilo treba posodobiti slike. Zdaj sem prebral zapis NEIC008. To s tem meliščem se je meni letos zgodilo, pot po tem melišču je sicer kar uhojena, tako da se verjetno veliko pohodnikov zmoti, čez tisto steno pa potem nisem upal, ker nisem vedel, kam vodi, sem pa na geopediji videl, da je za steno spet travnik in da verjetno ni panike...
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